The dreaded “Talk”

A week from tomorrow I’m giving a talk at Queens College on rhetoric and philosophy, and I’m not sure exactly how to do it.

I think the “talk” is a dreaded activity by most members of the audience. I think that people giving “talks” think of the talk in the terms of the audience, and then deliver something that meets some if not all of those dreadful expectations.

I’m trying to think of a way around it and a way of making the talk a bit more interactive as well as appear to be something that everyone has already thought about before – the theme in my head now is that the world fails to explain itself, and these two discourses are attempts to get an explanation.

On top of this I’m preparing talks for my trip to Japan in June to do lectures, and I hope that from this talk I can get a sense of how well or poorly my innovative methods do. I also should keep in mind I think the particularities of the Japanese audience as well.

I may video the presentation and put it up here because in reality it is a secret appeal to start a debate program at Queens College. Hope you can keep a secret!

Upcoming Trip To Japan

This June I’m traveling around Japan for about a month with the U.S. touring debaters. They will engage in public debates at various sites in Japan, and I will be expected to give some lectures. I need to come up with four different topics, so i’m starting to brainstorm in the margins of memos and things I get from the administration, as well as bills and offers for credit cards in the mail (yes somehow I still get those, I don’t understand how or why). Here’s what I have so far:

1. Coaching Debate at the High School Level and the University level in the US (requested topic).

2. Debate as Hermeneutic

3. Policy Debate and Worlds Debate: Diction, Distinction, Difference

4. Disembodied Argumentation: Everything new is old again.

As I get outlines I will post them, and when I do them, I think I may post the videos. The trip is in June which gives me about a month to finish up this 4 disc Japanese course I’m cramming.

Now it’s time to get ready to attend a small conference on Jack Kerouac in Manhattan this afternoon. Kerouac is my other research interest when I’m not talking about argumentation theory or teaching debate and argument.

Debate Surge in NYC


myself, Neill Harvey-Smith, Beth Connor, and Loke Wing Fatt, all in my apartment.

After US nationals we have had a surge of debate activity here at the University – first Loke Wing Fatt joined us from Singapore and immediately got into teaching with some short suggestions to the students for how to improve their techniques as well as a full critique of a practice debate held on the handgun motion from the national final round in Vermont.

After that Neill and Beth arrived and graciously offered to conduct a workshop before they returned home after a long series of engagements in the US – CAing and DCAing the US nats, judging at the Hobart & William Smith Round Robin, and doing a few days of workshops at Colgate University upstate. They did drills and answered questions for nearly 3 hours to a group of students from St. John’s, The King’s College and Adelphi.

It was great having them here and I must admit this morning I’ve been a bit unanchored and remiss to return to my normal daily life of reading, writing, grading and teaching.

I got a lot of great advice from Loke. He has really keen insight into debate, and especially how to structure a successful program. I hope to impliment his ideas soon. Neill and Beth were great for bouncing ideas off of, and chatting about the explosive advance of WUDC style debating in the United States. I think we had some very constructive and interesting conversations and I am certain that WUDC debating in the US will continue to grow. My concern is uncontrolled random growth without much direction. Preparing for a WUDC touranment is different than other formats – and the perception is that prep in one format might be more than enough for prep in another format. This bad perception can lead to dissapoinment at the first touranment and rejection of the format. It’s up to those who are familiar with the format to make sure that new programs get the support and guidance they need. And no, a morning briefing the day of the tournament will not be enough.

So I am very grateful to my new international debate coach friends. And I hope to see them again soon. Who would have thought only a few years ago that there was this international community of debate educators so willing to spend their valuable time helping out others who are just getting started?

New School Tantrum

Protests today at the New School are just another example of the rising frustration of students with the tale of “go to University, get a nice job” that for some bizarre reason all elements of the University have fallen behind in perfect step.

This tale is starting to lose interest among our students, as it is no longer satisfactory to repeat the same story. Even now the infantile demand for repetition – “No, you’re telling it wrong! Tell it how you did last time!” is transforming into “That story is for kids, tell me a new one!” And the tantrum begins when we don’t have a good story.

We have excellent people in our Universities, perhaps it is just that they forgot they were telling a tale of opportunity to get students interested in the relevance of the Academy? At some point the tale should have been exposed, like other childhood myths. Like the bad Disney movie, we wish our stories would come true and when they did for a while, it was a bit horrific, but we got used to it. Now the power is waning, and we need a new story to tell.

Perhaps the New School students are not as infantile as I make them out to be. All the tales of what they did during the occupation today make me cringe with a sense of revolutionary paternalism – “Where on earth is the vanguard?” I said while reading it. Anyway, one of them made it to the roof and began to read On the Poverty of Student Life over a megaphone. Pretty hilarious, as it’s somewhat self-degrading.

It’s been a while, since my Marcuse obsession of 2004, that I have read this document, and today I was inspired to read it again. Thank you New School tantrum. I think I’m starting to find an alternative bedtime story for my increasingly frustrated University students. Perhaps your intent wasn’t to fuel what we professors do, but perhaps through some of these elements I can actually be persuasive to your peers in ways that your Made for TV movie 60’s style protests cannot.

Also – am I the only one who thinks that when a building is occupied, you should let people from the other side in to debate you? If you win the debate, you leave the building. Judges can be decided from the crowd outside.

An American WUDC organization

At USU Nationals there was a bit of discussion about creating a national organization for American universities that do the WUDC format. I have been thinking about this idea for a while and have a pretty good defense as to why it might be a good idea to create one.

The arguments against it are of the general category “organizations bad” – they are bloated, political, don’t do a lot except for self promotion, and generally create strife among the members. Although I can’t say I haven’t experienced this in organizations I’ve been a part of, I also think that a U.S. WUDC organization could avoid these pitfalls. Here’s how I see it going down.

1. Separate the organization from any rankings or competitive elements. This seems counter intuitive to most people. Of course the organization should do national rankings! Of course it should have a national championship! But I think those statements are counter intuitive. Why must a national organization sanction a national tournament or a sweepstakes? Why not let those be different organizations, different set-ups and different groups administering them? The problem of folding everyone into a national tournament system or a sweepstakes system is that it narrows the possibilities for the programs involved to define themselves and define success their way to their administration. Also if an individual or a group decides to act in an inappropriate manner, schools very far removed from that behavior have to defend their entire existence – as what we saw in CEDA this past fall.

Instead, why not let the organization assist in the administration and sponsorship of such things. This breaks the organization’s tunnel-vision when it is linked to a tournament. Direct link to a national tournament puts the vision on awards, winning and all of the drama around bids and hosting the tournament. Rules for who can and can’t participate consume most of the organization’s time. This is not what we want. Let that happen outside of the organization.

2. the organization’s mission should be pedagogical and developmental. The primary drive of a US national WUDC organization should be to share and develop best practices of the teaching of argumentation and debate, both within the format and using the format as a springboard for general debate and argumentation education. The organization facilitates access, distribution, and development of teaching resources for all members. The organization hosts conferences where teaching practices are demonstrated and round tables are hosted on pedagogical issues. A mentorship system is established between debate directors who have mastery of the art with those who are just developing that mastery.

On the developmental front, the organization should conduct outreach to universities and colleges that do not currently participate in WUDC to show them the benefits of participation. There should be a “rapid response” team within the organization that can respond to inquiries for help in building programs quickly, professionally and without attitude. There should be an easy to download or access curriculum guide for instructors to seamlessly fold WUDC style debating into argumentation classes at the college or university level. There should be some funds set aside to help offset travel costs for newer programs to attend their first tournament and debate in WUDC format.

3. Sponsorships and Funding. Instead of a membership fee, member institutions pay their way through service – voluntary at tournaments or for the organization’s larger goals in development and pedagogy. Sacrificing part of one’s conference travel budget to teach a workshop or conduct judge training would be a good example. The voluntary board of directors of the organization will work to secure national sponsorships, funding and endowment monies from national level corporations, individuals and institutions. These moneys will be used to subsidize tournaments in the US in the WUDC style as well as defer travel costs for schools on a basis of merit and need. The goal of this arm of the organization is to make sure the financial playing field stays level at all times, and ensures a balance of participating schools. Unlike some other formats, we do not want financial inequity to become part of our argumentative language-game, nor do we want to brush off the recalcitrance of fiscal reality by claiming it can be solved by allowing for more open argumentative performances. I think the organization should recognize fiscal realities and limits as the most important obstacle debate programs face.

4. National Judge Certification. The organization should create a system of judge training and certification at the national level. Much like medical boards and bar associations, our organization should be self regulating, encouraging open debate and discussion on what qualifies a chair, and what a good judge should look like. Within this scholarly-style discussion, a process of examination should be developed involving a blind peer-review process conducted by a training board who will be selected based on merit and community respect. The materials and tests should be freely available, and certification should last for a few years. The test should be marked by at least two individuals from geographically different parts of the US, and the test should involve using real in-round videos which are becoming more and more easily accessible in the age of cheap digital video.

The certification process should be linked to tournament sanctioning, sponsorship and assistance. It should be assumed that those involved in the organization will sit for the test frequently and no exceptions to testing will be extended to be considered a qualified judge. At sponsored and assisted tournaments the use of qualified adjudicators as chairs must be a requirement.

So that’s all I can think of for now, but I think it’s a lot to do.

Of course an easy answer to all of this is to say “IDEA does it.” Unfortunately, that organization is spread pretty thin. Why not have something that focuses on our unique problems, needs and desires? It doesn’t compete with IDEA, since they are interested mostly in high school debating anyway.

this organization as I envision it would be great. Of course in practice things have a tendency to bloat and become lazy. I hope those who would be interested in a vision as I’ve laid it out here would not allow this to happen. But I think the members would be the best check on each other as long as they remained honest, and remembered that in the end we all want the same thing – successful students.